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		<title>By: 101st post review at Terahertz</title>
		<link>http://terahertzatheist.ca/2007/11/28/sharia-law/comment-page-1/#comment-343</link>
		<dc:creator>101st post review at Terahertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 18 Aug 2008 03:57:18 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] I&#8217;ve also written on a few political things (likely more will come) including the America: From Freedom to Fascism documentary, the homeless, democracy, and Sharia Law. [...]</description>
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		<title>By: Ian</title>
		<link>http://terahertzatheist.ca/2007/11/28/sharia-law/comment-page-1/#comment-74</link>
		<dc:creator>Ian</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 04:20:35 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>James,

You called me absolutely right on this one.

I jumped the gun to get an argument up and didn&#039;t think it through as long as I should have.

I disagree with law from revelation because it lacks a framework beyond the people who supposedly heard from God - the Quar&#039;an from Mohamad, the Bible from x number of authors.  Justification for those books is not something I feel like arguing here.

Quickly on the NT: homosexuality is &quot;worth of death&quot; Romans 1:31-32, kept out of heaven 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, etc.

I didn&#039;t mean that our laws are based on religious doctrine - our system of democracy comes more from Greek origins (but doesn&#039;t feature aspects of Greek mythology), and our laws have moved a long ways away from the laws that were in place during medieval times.  I guess it&#039;s personal bias that our current laws are more just than those of the past - but I do feel that secular humanistic laws (even if they weren&#039;t meant to be).

The thing I&#039;d have to agree with you is that a lot of the things Jesus (is accredited to have) said made sense - they had to or people would have immediately called him a loony and there&#039;d be no Christianity.  Loving your neighbour, peace, and friendship are things I hope all people want, I just don&#039;t think the miracles happened (and it&#039;d be a rather boring book without them ;-) ).

Anyways, I responded because I admit again that this was one of my weaker posts, but I hope I made up for it a bit here.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>James,</p>
<p>You called me absolutely right on this one.</p>
<p>I jumped the gun to get an argument up and didn&#8217;t think it through as long as I should have.</p>
<p>I disagree with law from revelation because it lacks a framework beyond the people who supposedly heard from God &#8211; the Quar&#8217;an from Mohamad, the Bible from x number of authors.  Justification for those books is not something I feel like arguing here.</p>
<p>Quickly on the NT: homosexuality is &#8220;worth of death&#8221; Romans 1:31-32, kept out of heaven 1 Corinthians 6:9-10, etc.</p>
<p>I didn&#8217;t mean that our laws are based on religious doctrine &#8211; our system of democracy comes more from Greek origins (but doesn&#8217;t feature aspects of Greek mythology), and our laws have moved a long ways away from the laws that were in place during medieval times.  I guess it&#8217;s personal bias that our current laws are more just than those of the past &#8211; but I do feel that secular humanistic laws (even if they weren&#8217;t meant to be).</p>
<p>The thing I&#8217;d have to agree with you is that a lot of the things Jesus (is accredited to have) said made sense &#8211; they had to or people would have immediately called him a loony and there&#8217;d be no Christianity.  Loving your neighbour, peace, and friendship are things I hope all people want, I just don&#8217;t think the miracles happened (and it&#8217;d be a rather boring book without them <img src='http://terahertzatheist.ca/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_wink.gif' alt=';-)' class='wp-smiley' />  ).</p>
<p>Anyways, I responded because I admit again that this was one of my weaker posts, but I hope I made up for it a bit here.</p>
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		<title>By: James Bell</title>
		<link>http://terahertzatheist.ca/2007/11/28/sharia-law/comment-page-1/#comment-73</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 29 Nov 2007 02:50:19 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>You have one point that&#039;s _very_ weak.  You say that the law is unjust simply because it is based on the Quar&#039;an.  Ye who pride yourself on the logic of your beliefs, where is the logic in that?
I&#039;m not saying that I support Sharia law (from my (very limited) understanding of it I don&#039;t support it) but your statement is not very strong.  To say it Sharia law is wrong just because you don&#039;t like the book it comes from is incredibly closed-minded.  I think there are much better reasons to be against it than than to open your post by saying, &quot;I don&#039;t like it because &#039;it is based solely off of the Quar&#039;an&#039; &quot;.

&quot;Religious law is a 1000-year backwards step for a society.&quot;  Really?  Yet you said that our law is based on religious doctrines.  How can it be a step backwards if that&#039;s where we already are?  And how do you choose the direction to step forward?  (I don&#039;t expect that these are questions that will stump you; I&#039;m simply curious to hear your answer.)

What New Testament passages are not applied to modern law?  I can think of divorce, but what else?  And would following those passages really be a step backward?  There are sound logical reasons for everything I can think of in the New Testament.  And even though you may agree with current laws on divorce, I don&#039;t think you can say that to disallow it would be a 1000-year backward step.

 And as I&#039;ve mentioned before, the New Testament renders a lot of the Old Testament laws obsolete (the book of John is a good starting point if you&#039;d like to read why the coming of Christ changed things).  So I&#039;d agree that to force people who commit a crime to sacrifice a couple of doves and smear the blood on themselves - that would be a big step backwards (in both a social and a religious sense).</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>You have one point that&#8217;s _very_ weak.  You say that the law is unjust simply because it is based on the Quar&#8217;an.  Ye who pride yourself on the logic of your beliefs, where is the logic in that?<br />
I&#8217;m not saying that I support Sharia law (from my (very limited) understanding of it I don&#8217;t support it) but your statement is not very strong.  To say it Sharia law is wrong just because you don&#8217;t like the book it comes from is incredibly closed-minded.  I think there are much better reasons to be against it than than to open your post by saying, &#8220;I don&#8217;t like it because &#8216;it is based solely off of the Quar&#8217;an&#8217; &#8220;.</p>
<p>&#8220;Religious law is a 1000-year backwards step for a society.&#8221;  Really?  Yet you said that our law is based on religious doctrines.  How can it be a step backwards if that&#8217;s where we already are?  And how do you choose the direction to step forward?  (I don&#8217;t expect that these are questions that will stump you; I&#8217;m simply curious to hear your answer.)</p>
<p>What New Testament passages are not applied to modern law?  I can think of divorce, but what else?  And would following those passages really be a step backward?  There are sound logical reasons for everything I can think of in the New Testament.  And even though you may agree with current laws on divorce, I don&#8217;t think you can say that to disallow it would be a 1000-year backward step.</p>
<p> And as I&#8217;ve mentioned before, the New Testament renders a lot of the Old Testament laws obsolete (the book of John is a good starting point if you&#8217;d like to read why the coming of Christ changed things).  So I&#8217;d agree that to force people who commit a crime to sacrifice a couple of doves and smear the blood on themselves &#8211; that would be a big step backwards (in both a social and a religious sense).</p>
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