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		<title>By: Brian D</title>
		<link>http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/10/a-sceptical-white-house/comment-page-1/#comment-2361</link>
		<dc:creator>Brian D</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 26 Nov 2008 07:31:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Late adendum: &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Obama skips church, heads to gym.&lt;/a&gt; Consider &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/05/04/politico_funding/&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;the source&lt;/a&gt;, which may explain the wording chosen (&quot;Both [previous president-elects] &lt;i&gt;managed to attend&lt;/i&gt; church in the weeks after they were elected.&quot;) and the Wright namedrop.

Also, compare Obama&#039;s response to election to Dubya&#039;s (which is painstakingly recounted in the article), or if you prefer, the Call to Renewal speech (the pertinent clips, accompanied by a summary from Wingnuttia, can be seen &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;here&lt;/a&gt;) as opposed to &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Politics/2004/07/George-W-Bush-On-Faith.aspx&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;pretty much any of this&lt;/a&gt;.

This reminds me vaguely of how my family tried to raise me (also in the United tradition) -- religion being defining but not enslaving, belonging to faith but not bound by it, where church is as much (or more so!) social as it is spiritual for its congregation. 

I wouldn&#039;t say it&#039;s a freethinker in the White House (we can all agree that this would cost a candidate the substantial Jesus vote), but I would say it&#039;s a good jump closer to secular humanism.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Late adendum: <a href="http://www.politico.com/news/stories/1108/15902.html" rel="nofollow">Obama skips church, heads to gym.</a> Consider <a href="http://www.salon.com/opinion/greenwald/2007/05/04/politico_funding/" rel="nofollow">the source</a>, which may explain the wording chosen (&#8220;Both [previous president-elects] <i>managed to attend</i> church in the weeks after they were elected.&#8221;) and the Wright namedrop.</p>
<p>Also, compare Obama&#8217;s response to election to Dubya&#8217;s (which is painstakingly recounted in the article), or if you prefer, the Call to Renewal speech (the pertinent clips, accompanied by a summary from Wingnuttia, can be seen <a href="http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UnmS_vULPxw" rel="nofollow">here</a>) as opposed to <a href="http://www.beliefnet.com/News/Politics/2004/07/George-W-Bush-On-Faith.aspx" rel="nofollow">pretty much any of this</a>.</p>
<p>This reminds me vaguely of how my family tried to raise me (also in the United tradition) &#8212; religion being defining but not enslaving, belonging to faith but not bound by it, where church is as much (or more so!) social as it is spiritual for its congregation. </p>
<p>I wouldn&#8217;t say it&#8217;s a freethinker in the White House (we can all agree that this would cost a candidate the substantial Jesus vote), but I would say it&#8217;s a good jump closer to secular humanism.</p>
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		<title>By: Jack</title>
		<link>http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/10/a-sceptical-white-house/comment-page-1/#comment-2206</link>
		<dc:creator>Jack</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 22 Nov 2008 14:16:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>&lt;strong&gt;barack obama march 2008 interview...&lt;/strong&gt;

I found your post interesting and share most of your views, but just dont get your second point....</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><strong>barack obama march 2008 interview&#8230;</strong></p>
<p>I found your post interesting and share most of your views, but just dont get your second point&#8230;.</p>
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		<title>By: A skeptical White House? &#124; All Reason</title>
		<link>http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/10/a-sceptical-white-house/comment-page-1/#comment-2007</link>
		<dc:creator>A skeptical White House? &#124; All Reason</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 19 Nov 2008 00:07:06 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: James Bell</title>
		<link>http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/10/a-sceptical-white-house/comment-page-1/#comment-1690</link>
		<dc:creator>James Bell</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 10 Nov 2008 20:33:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I&#039;m not so sure I follow the logic.  Sure, he /could/ be a skeptic.  But I&#039;m one of those who use &quot;good ol’ fashioned prayers&quot; and I&#039;d be quite likely to say the same thing as he did about seances.
That&#039;s like saying you heard someone say that pork is disgusting therefore you draw the conclusion that he&#039;s a vegetarian.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I&#8217;m not so sure I follow the logic.  Sure, he /could/ be a skeptic.  But I&#8217;m one of those who use &#8220;good ol’ fashioned prayers&#8221; and I&#8217;d be quite likely to say the same thing as he did about seances.<br />
That&#8217;s like saying you heard someone say that pork is disgusting therefore you draw the conclusion that he&#8217;s a vegetarian.</p>
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