Comments on: How to reconcile time travel http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/ Sun, 03 Mar 2013 08:21:08 +0000 hourly 1 http://wordpress.org/?v=3.5.1 By: half life counter strike | CNN.com http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2428 half life counter strike | CNN.com Fri, 28 Nov 2008 19:38:25 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2428 [...] How to reconcile time travel ’t to say that if you get involved in a paradox a few things won’t strike you as being very odd, but if you’ve got through life without that already happening to you, then I don’t know which Universe you’ve been living in, but it isn’t this one.” Now, Douglas Adams’ work is known for its somewhat … [...]

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By: Brian D http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2350 Brian D Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:07:53 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2350 Sorry for the double post, but on a related note: If my last parenthetical is the case (i.e. that the mind covers up paradoxes that otherwise actually happened), this leads to a horrible, horrible pun worthy of this paper’s potential title: If a paradox happens in a forest, and no one’s around to see it, does the universe still end?

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By: Brian D http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2349 Brian D Tue, 25 Nov 2008 23:04:13 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2349 Devin brought up Twelve Monkeys. Just a moment, brain dirty, need a bone saw.

There does appear to be one problem with the perspective you’ve addressed even operating under the assumptions you’ve mentioned (such as single timeline and free will). Namely, that reality itself is subjective, and if enough people believe a paradox didn’t happen, it didn’t. Doesn’t this put a LOT of emphasis on a person’s individual beliefs and perspectives (almost to a Copenhagen Interpretation level)? Or am I simply not following your case (i.e. it could be that the paradox did happen but our minds construct a narrative to cover our perception of what cannot be? This sounds like an odd hybrid of Terry Pratchett and H.P. Lovecraft.)

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By: How to reconcile time travel | Terahertz | kozmom http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2348 How to reconcile time travel | Terahertz | kozmom Tue, 25 Nov 2008 22:16:07 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2348 [...] details: How to reconcile time travel | Terahertz [...]

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By: How to reconcile time travel | Terahertz | developtravel.com http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2347 How to reconcile time travel | Terahertz | developtravel.com Tue, 25 Nov 2008 21:48:23 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2347 [...] See the original post [...]

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By: ADHR http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2343 ADHR Tue, 25 Nov 2008 19:25:47 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2343 Is everything that’s real testable, though? That sounds like verificationism, which (amongst other things) failed because it ran epistemology and ontology too closely together. It’s not in principle untestable, which seems to put it in the realm of the logically possible. Whether it’s physically possible depends on what physicists are saying these days, and I concede I really have no clue what they’re on about.

Oh, and, Kant is relevant to everything, Mike. Deal.

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By: Mike http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2337 Mike Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:19:49 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2337 I’m with ADHR. The only way for this to be resolved is with the many-worlds, infinite parallel time lines. This is the ultimate free will – all things are possible and the universe is altered based on your actions and choices and branches from there.

Kinda of the bastard child of Schroedinger’s Cat and Werner Heisenberg.

Kant has nothing to do with it.
;)

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By: Ian http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2336 Ian Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:18:49 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2336 The problem with “branched timelines” is that we don’t really have a physical basis (besides many-worlds hypothesis) for such an idea. That’s not to say it’s not possible, but it doesn’t really seem testable (how do I know what timeline I’m in?)

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By: ADHR http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2335 ADHR Tue, 25 Nov 2008 16:09:16 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2335 Well, you don’t have to be a libertarian to have some sort of free will in play… when you get a minute, take a look at Dennett’s Freedom Evolves, which made compatibilism far more plausible to me.

That said, what about the Back to the Future or Terminator idea? That is, time travel wherein the past is actually altered really creates a branched timeline. So, taking the former as an example, when Marty went back in time and accidentally broke up his parents, he didn’t vanish from existence immediately. He created a new timeline where he and his siblings were never born. He then subsequently created a third timeline where his parents got together in a far more romantic fashion and were entirely different people. This requires distinguishing between the timeline of the world and the timeline of the person, but that doesn’t seem obviously objectionable.

Another way to go is to argue, with Kant, that time is a form of presentation not an ontological feature, in which case time travel is only a discontinuity in the order of the spatiotemporal manifold of perception.

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By: Devin Johnston http://terahertzatheist.ca/2008/11/24/how-to-reconcile-time-travel/comment-page-1/#comment-2330 Devin Johnston Tue, 25 Nov 2008 05:08:21 +0000 http://terahertzatheist.ca/?p=1221#comment-2330 I think that is probably a good thing to retain in your ontology.

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