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		<title>By: aortic aneurysm repair</title>
		<link>http://terahertzatheist.ca/2009/02/17/doctors-add-to-calls-for-nhp-regulations/comment-page-1/#comment-17708</link>
		<dc:creator>aortic aneurysm repair</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 17 Jul 2009 14:39:34 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Doctors need a lot of things and factors to consider.I am happy to know that there are good doctors.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Doctors need a lot of things and factors to consider.I am happy to know that there are good doctors.</p>
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		<title>By: Chiropractor Back Blog &#187; Doctors add to calls for NHP regulations &#124; Terahertz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Chiropractor Back Blog &#187; Doctors add to calls for NHP regulations &#124; Terahertz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2009 00:46:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>[...] unknown posted a noteworthy aricle today onHere&#8217;s a small snippetWith the overwhelming number of naturopathy clinics (that’s right, that link is a holistic vet, your dog can get acupuncture too now) in Edmonton, it’s good to see one of the real doctors making these statements. Related posts: &#8230; [...]</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>[...] unknown posted a noteworthy aricle today onHere&#8217;s a small snippetWith the overwhelming number of naturopathy clinics (that’s right, that link is a holistic vet, your dog can get acupuncture too now) in Edmonton, it’s good to see one of the real doctors making these statements. Related posts: &#8230; [...]</p>
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		<title>By: Auto Industry Bailout &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Chrysler : H?P Nh?T V?I Gm Là Canh B?C Kh? Thi Nh?T : ThôNg Tin &#8230;</title>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 23 Feb 2009 13:30:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: April Masei</title>
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		<dc:creator>April Masei</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 03:10:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Why not let the morons who choose to use useless or harmfull products suffer for their stupidity...
The gene pool does need chlorine now and then
Or at the very least a few morons are out a few bucks.  Better than everyone being out money to keep morons from hurting themselves.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Why not let the morons who choose to use useless or harmfull products suffer for their stupidity&#8230;<br />
The gene pool does need chlorine now and then<br />
Or at the very least a few morons are out a few bucks.  Better than everyone being out money to keep morons from hurting themselves.</p>
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		<title>By: Barrry Green</title>
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		<dc:creator>Barrry Green</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Wed, 18 Feb 2009 01:25:07 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Terahertz:

Thanks for the shout-out.  It&#039;s about time the &lt;i&gt;CMAJ&lt;/i&gt; got involved in discussing NHP regulation.  They have been disappointingly quiet during StopC51&#039;s propaganda campaign against C-51.  Let&#039;s hope this marks a spark of interest from the group as we await the bill being re-introduced in this Parliament under a different number.

I applaud the intent of the &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.cmaj.ca/press/pg367.pdf&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;&lt;i&gt;CMAJ&lt;/i&gt; editorial&lt;/a&gt;.  However, they got part of their criticism wrong.  When they say, &quot;governments must pass legislation to subject weight-loss products to regulatory approval before they can be marketed, as has recently been proposed for other therapeutic products not presently covered by current drug-approval regulations&quot;, they seem to not know that this has been the case in Canada since the &lt;i&gt;NHP Regulations&lt;/i&gt; came into force in 2004.  Probably what they mean is that they want weight-loss products to be only licensed under Non-traditional Use Claims (i.e., scientifically-based claims).  Currently, NHPs can license under a Traditional Use Claim cop-out provision, which does not require scientific evidence.

Everything else the editorial said is bang on.  NHP manufacturers should provide evidence for the health claims they make.  However, as we have seen with &lt;a href=&quot;http://www.ottawaskeptics.org/topics/alternative-medicine/176-does-cold-fx-qstop-coldsq&quot; rel=&quot;nofollow&quot;&gt;Cold-FX&lt;/a&gt;, whose manufacturer seems to be trying to play by the rules, its long and expensive to play properly, and you might not like that your product is not a hands-down proven success.

I agree that the practices of the weight-loss industry should be regulated, in addition to the products.  First, however, the government should get C-51 through (or whatever its number will be) in order to strengthen the enforcement measures for contravening the regulations.  The current maximum fine of $5K is far from being a deterrent to substantial NHP manufacturers, but C-51&#039;s $5M maximum fine would get their attention.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Terahertz:</p>
<p>Thanks for the shout-out.  It&#8217;s about time the <i>CMAJ</i> got involved in discussing NHP regulation.  They have been disappointingly quiet during StopC51&#8242;s propaganda campaign against C-51.  Let&#8217;s hope this marks a spark of interest from the group as we await the bill being re-introduced in this Parliament under a different number.</p>
<p>I applaud the intent of the <a href="http://www.cmaj.ca/press/pg367.pdf" rel="nofollow"><i>CMAJ</i> editorial</a>.  However, they got part of their criticism wrong.  When they say, &#8220;governments must pass legislation to subject weight-loss products to regulatory approval before they can be marketed, as has recently been proposed for other therapeutic products not presently covered by current drug-approval regulations&#8221;, they seem to not know that this has been the case in Canada since the <i>NHP Regulations</i> came into force in 2004.  Probably what they mean is that they want weight-loss products to be only licensed under Non-traditional Use Claims (i.e., scientifically-based claims).  Currently, NHPs can license under a Traditional Use Claim cop-out provision, which does not require scientific evidence.</p>
<p>Everything else the editorial said is bang on.  NHP manufacturers should provide evidence for the health claims they make.  However, as we have seen with <a href="http://www.ottawaskeptics.org/topics/alternative-medicine/176-does-cold-fx-qstop-coldsq" rel="nofollow">Cold-FX</a>, whose manufacturer seems to be trying to play by the rules, its long and expensive to play properly, and you might not like that your product is not a hands-down proven success.</p>
<p>I agree that the practices of the weight-loss industry should be regulated, in addition to the products.  First, however, the government should get C-51 through (or whatever its number will be) in order to strengthen the enforcement measures for contravening the regulations.  The current maximum fine of $5K is far from being a deterrent to substantial NHP manufacturers, but C-51&#8242;s $5M maximum fine would get their attention.</p>
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		<title>By: Natural Medicines…Monthly Update « Sas Blog</title>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 21:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Weight Loss &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Doctors add to calls for NHP regulations</title>
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		<dc:creator>Weight Loss &#187; Blog Archive &#187; Doctors add to calls for NHP regulations</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 20:26:40 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Steven Olson</title>
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		<dc:creator>Steven Olson</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 17 Feb 2009 19:58:48 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Sadly, I think my parents (mom) uses holistic &quot;medicine&quot; on the cat.  

And I certainly hope they regulate the weight loss industry.  There are so many things out there that make no sense what so ever!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Sadly, I think my parents (mom) uses holistic &#8220;medicine&#8221; on the cat.  </p>
<p>And I certainly hope they regulate the weight loss industry.  There are so many things out there that make no sense what so ever!</p>
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