What’s wrong with wanting a community?
Take this as a review of a review.
I liked most of Tom Flynn’s review of Greg Epstein’s Good Without God in February/March’s Free Inquiry, but some of it was hypocritical, name-calling nonsense.
First the good:
Greg M. Epstein is the humanist chaplain of Harvard University and, let’s be frank, a young man on the make. He’s an empire builder, a visionary, a charismatic ambassador.
Well that’s a great endorsement of Mr. Epstein. Let’s hear some more:
He’s on the cusp of taking religious humanism by storm, establishing himself as just the sort of driving figure this particular humanist tribe has long hungered for. (emphasis added)
Wait… religious humanism? Right from the start, Flynn starts by defining Epstein in terms of something other than Free Inquiry’s own brand of secular humanism. But let’s look at some more good stuff before we get into this discussion:
Good without God is friendly, accessible, engaging, breezy when it needs to be, and written more like a rollicking business or how-to book than a typical humanist tome. In other words, it’s the sort of thing that twenty-first-century people just growing curious about religious humanism might read.
But there he goes poisoning the well again by throwing that “religious” word in (he actually uses it once more in that paragraph and emphasizes that Epstein capitalizes the H in Humanism).
So what is Flynn talking about, he finally defines religious humanism about halfway through his review, after using the phrase ten times:
Before I go further, I should attempt to define that amorphous phrase “religious humanism.” Religious humanists are first of all humanists – they attach primary moral and aesthetic interest to human concerns as opposed to those of supposed supernatural beings. Nonetheless, in various ways that don’t always travel together, religious humanists approach their lifestance in a manner that’s distinctively religious. [sic] I have defined religion as a “life stance that includes at minimum a belief in the existence and fundamental importance of a realm transcending that of ordinary experience.”
He goes on to claim that religious humanists demand faith - “assent less than fully compelled by the evidence in hand.” And while Epstein does use phrasing and is more willing to reach out to the liberal religions, he is by no means espousing blind faith in the supernatural. In regards to God, Epstein has the following to say (on pages 12 and 13-14 respectively):
Those who want to convince us that there is a God, and that a certain religion has access to eternal truth, should be expected – just as Humanists should be – to produce serious, credible, testable evidence in support of their claims.
[In response to his question, what do you believe about God?] Here is the Humanist answer: we believe that God is the most important, influential literary character human beings have ever created.
But Flynn isn’t content to pigeon-hole just the faith-based and “spiritual” humanists into his religious humanist slur, he also says,
Another branch of this tribe has no visible attachment to extra-evidential beliefs; these religious humanists are simply enthusiasts for the sort of congregational community life that many traditional believers (not only Christians) experience in more traditional church, temple, or mosque settings.
Flynn, not seeing the hypocrisy in calling declaring himself a secular humanist while participating heavily in the Centre For Inquiry and acting as editor for Free Inquiry – a Humanist organization and a Humanist magazine. He labels Epstein religious for founding communities, yet remains blind to the congregations he has surrounded himself with. CFI is no less of a church than anything that Epstein has been working toward.
Flynn also thinks many secular humanists will disagree with Epstein’s quote “myth doesn’t always need to be a dirty word for the nonreligious.” Well, I have to strongly agree with Epstein, so long as you understand the definition of myth which generally refers to a traditional story told within a community. It can be true or false, and can be seen as such. Santa Claus has become a secular myth that many atheists have no problem telling their children, who later figure out that not all stories are true.
Epstein never states that all Humanists need to attend “Humanist church” or accept “Humanist dogma.” Flynn poisons the discussion of this book, which he still highly recommends (as do I), by inventing a division between so-called religious and secular humanists.
There is a demand for a communal setting for like-minded people, it’s part of why religion has done so well over human history, even secular humanists are organizing for semi-regular meetings.
Let’s save the phrase “religious humanism” for those humanists who remain part of religious congregations, the Unitarians and some United Church members, and reject Flynn’s mischaracterization of Epstein, a man who just happened to put a friendlier, modern face on what was, until recently, a dyeing ideology.
CFI Canada National Conference day 2
Yesterday was a pretty good day. It started rough with my mind being off for the entire first talk, which is okay, because the talk was by a pseudo-archaeologist who continually used the word “paradigm” and talked about how the “establishments” was keeping him down.
Most of the talks seemed to run a bit long, which cut some of the discussions off. There were still interesting talks on art and science and philosophy later. I hadn’t considered the morality argument that we must have a secular moral standard to choose whether God or Satan is more moral than the other.
I also discovered that Christopher DiCarlo is one of the best speakers on the Canadian roster. We’re definitely going to try to get him out to Vancouver soon.
After the conference events I got to have dinner with DiCarlo and CFI Transnational president Ron Lindsay, which was a good experience. After which we caught the tail end of the skeptics magic show.
We then drank a bunch of beers and gossiped before I headed back to my hostel.
Unfortunately I wasn’t alone last night as a gentlemen occupied the top bunk when I got back to the hostel. He also smelled and snored. But he did leave for a flight at 4am so I did get some sleep to myself.
This morning I got pancakes for free and walked along Yonge Street before dropping in for the end of the Canadian Secular Alliance meeting. I just finished lunch and now this afternoon promises to be interesting with the CFI Annual General Meeting and Board Meeting.
My flight out is tomorrow morning at 7am and lands at 9am, so I may be able to make my 10:30 am class.
CFI Canada National Conference begins
I’m in Toronto for the first ever Centre for Inquiry national conference. I had to get up at 4 am in Vancouver yesterday to catch a flight out at 7 and had 15 minutes to change planes in Calgary and arrived around 4 in the afternoon local time.
Yesterday consisted of a few panels, one of which I was supposed to chair (but unfortunately I was up in the air (hey, that was a good movie (hey, nested brackets are fun))), followed by a banquet and small rewards ceremony. I was nominated for the first every Justin Trottier award, but lost to the worthy Derek Rodgers. The day ended with an atheist comedy line-up, hosted by sometimes Video On Trial comic Hunter Collins. After the programming we polished off the remaining beer from the banquet and then I checked into my hostel late into the night.
The Global Backpackers Hostel where I’m staying is actually pretty nice (and dirt cheap), especially since I got a twin room with no roommate and a view of the CN Tower.
Today’s focus is the freethought intersection between art and science, which hopes to be interesting.
My biggest complaint so far: awful small text powerpoints. Most of the presenters haven’t used slides, but so far we’re 2 for 2 that I’ve seen where there’s no use sitting behind the third row because you won’t be able to read the screen. Oh yeah, and Tim Horton’s in Ontario don’t take debit.
Nevertheless, great people and great weather, but it is still Toronto.
In the news
A few quick stories of note recently:
- A whooping cough outbreak is occurring in the BC West Kootenay region because woo-woo parents think vaccines are evil and now their children are at risk of dying. And some people ask what’s the harm in letting people believe in alternative medicine.
- Speaking of unfounded woo, NDP MP Denise Savoie has claimed that evil “toxins” are to blame for NDP Leader Jack Layton’s recently diagnosed prostate cancer. Throw out the fact she doesn’t state what specific toxins cause cancer and implies all chemicals are evil. Perhaps cancer is more frequent now because we’re living longer and are better at detecting it.
- Further to the Jack Layton story, it’s commendable to see everyone setting aside partisanship to wish him the best for a speedy recovery.
- The BC Civil Liberties Association is rightly backing the right of University of Victoria’s Your Protecting Youth pro-life student group. While I disagree with the groups stance, they do have a right to exist and organize and pushing them aside is the wrong thing to do. If the group crosses the lines of civil discourse and propagates falsehoods, then there may be a case for disbanding them, but the same ought to apply to any and all campus groups.
- The Kamloops Atheists report that the local “Daily News” paper refused to publish any atheist material in their religion page since “the rest of the paper was for atheist material.” They subsequently didn’t publish the request article anywhere in the paper. Further they note that the Kamloops Christian School is teaching Biblical Creationism with equal time to the “theory” of evolution.
- Finally, to end on a positive note, the Centre for Inquiry Vancouver has just hired Radio Freethinker co-host Ethan Clow as their new Executive Director, making him the third paid CFI employee in Canada. I look forward to see continued success for CFI and wish Ethan the best of luck. Further to that, I’ve accepted a position as CFI Canada’s Campus Outreach Director, and hope to continue the success of the dozens of student groups across the country.
Small steps
About 3 months ago I posted my criticisms about the leadership of CFI Canada. A little debate ensued and then the issue essentially died as I ran into school and focussed less on it.
In mid-October Justin Trottier issued his formal response on behalf of CFI Canada, by means of his blog ironically (considering it isn’t CFI affiliated, but I’ll admit the optics are better putting it there than on the front page of http://cficanada.ca).
The best news out of this is the following (long overdue, but that’s Canada’s system of red-tape):
As proof of how far we have come, I am pleased to announce the Centre for Inquiry is now a charitable organization in Canada and ready to issue tax receipts.
He also removed his blog postings from his Facebook profile, which further separates CFI from his men’s rights views.
Unfortunately, my concerns about the democratic nature are left unaddressed, however, it’s well worth noting that each CFI branch in Canada tends to operate as a self-directed organization. This means that CFI Vancouver (or Calgary or Montreal) almost entirely run themselves, and have access to the resources of the CFI umbrella.
CFIs board remains unelected, and I see that remaining as is for the foreseeable future. Meanwhile Humanist Canada’s elected board has undergone some internal strife recently that culminated in the resignation of board president Pat O’Brien (who spoke at the BC Humanist board meeting a couple weeks ago). I’ll avoid the gossipy details since I didn’t take notes.
Humanist Canada has kept an elected board for years, however, with declining active membership, their board essentially becomes election by acclamation (which is hardly different then appointments anyway).
In the new year I’ll likely be actively involved in both Humanist Canada and CFI Canada, and advocating for greater cooperation between both groups for the good of freethought in Canada.
Gimme’ some of that old time anti-theism
This morning I decided to make the commute to the weekly Sunday morning BC Humanist meeting in Vancouver, mainly helped by the fact the time change made getting up on a Sunday less of a chore.
I had met with the Secular Humanists in Calgary a long time ago, and was expecting a similar dynamic of older-aged, don’t-rock-the-boat style humanists.
Unfortunately, I was again the junior of most of the members by at least 20 years, and in most cases 30-50 years (one member had a granddaughter that’s my age). Nevertheless, this group still had lots of energy. The discussions were lively, and next week they plan to discuss the friendly vs. offensive atheism stances.
The meeting was fairly well organized, with a couple of leaders who saw that it ran smoothly from the catching-up gossip of the first half to a viewing of a clip from the Dawkins: Genius of Darwin Uncut Interviews. Unfortunately, we ran out of time and weren’t able to have a post-video discussion, which frustrated a few people.
I also sensed there was some discontent with the BCHA board, who for the most part weren’t in attendance. But I can’t really comment on this at all since I don’t know their internal dynamics.
They did let me know that they had tried to contact CFI Vancouver, but hadn’t heard a response so hopefully that can all be sorted out.
They also currently don’t have any registered Humanist Officiants in BC, since a few years ago they decided not to go with the religious officiant label that the BC government would require (otherwise they are just plain old marriage commissioners – which have less freedom in their ceremonies).
I will say that they were all very friendly and were definitely glad to have a newcomer to their meetings. Humanist associations have a lot of history and are well established in Canada. They’ve had charitable status for a number of years (something recently attained by CFI after much hard work) and are generally positive in outlook. Unfortunately, many humanist organizations have stagnated and failed to attract new and younger members, causing some (like in Edmonton) to vanish entirely.
So for the time being I think I’ll attend the odd BCHA event and try to encourage a few more people to come – there’s a lot of experience in these groups and it can help to sometimes no have to reinvent the wheel.
Tomorrow’s Blasphemy Day!
I've only been half paying attention to CFI's latest publicity stunt with "Blasphemy Day International 2009" that goes off tomorrow, but I do like this Christian Post article summarizing it.
They summarize it fairly objectively, and then go into the best part, "How should Christians respond?"
First, take no offense. Refuse to play into the game plan of those sponsoring International Blasphemy Day. The Lord Jesus Christ was and is despised and rejected of men. Our Lord bore the scorn heaped upon him by his enemies. Christianity is not an honor religion. Believers in the Lord Jesus Christ are not commanded to defend his honor, but to be willing to share in the scorn directed to him. Is the servant greater than his master?
Of course, you've sponsored it by posting a big article on your website. Nevertheless, they're right that if they ignore it, it will probably just go away.
Islam is an honor religion, and the major forces in the world today seeking to criminalize blasphemy are Islamic. The riots on the streets of many nations in protest of the Danish cartoons do represent what faithful Muslims believe their religion requires them to do. Not so for Christianity. We must be those who take to the streets with the Gospel - not with a defense of our honor or the honor of our Lord. When Christians forget this, we lose our Gospel witness. The history of the church includes far too many instances of this loss. We dare not add another.
Good advice again, keep the Bibles away lest you look like intolerant jerks (which he actually admits they have).
Second, mourn the blasphemy. The warning of Jesus is clear - blasphemy has eternal consequences. The worst form of blasphemy is the refusal to hear and believe the Gospel. For that sin there can be no forgiveness. We must mourn the blasphemy, not because honor is at stake, but because souls are at stake with eternal consequences. God will ultimately and perfectly defend his honor. On that day, there will be no escape for unrepentant blasphemers.
Stay home and pray for us. Maybe it'll work...
Third, see this observance for what it really is - an unintended testimony to the existence of God and the foolishness of those who deny Him. The sheer foolishness of a blasphemy contest with t-shirts and mugs betrays the lunacy of it all. They can do no better than this? One testimony to the power of God is the fact that his self-declared enemies come off as so childish and manic. The heathen rage and God sees the foolish grasshoppers.
Seriously? You're using the fact we're saying "Fuck God, he doesn't exist" as proof He exists? I can say "Fuck the Care Bears" but it doesn't make them more real. The reason a day like this is necessary is because people are still being killed in the twenty-first century for having the galls to say there's no God in the wrong place. This doesn't prove God, it merely proves human insanity. I do agree that the t-shirt/mug contest is pretty silly, but at least it got your attention (marches aren't as good as they used to be). And as for the childish and manic ones:
International Blasphemy Day will come and go. Take note, ponder its meaning . . . and skip the t-shirt.
I'm not too concerned about blasphemy rights in Canada, we're doing pretty okay (despite the hate mongers who want the right to discriminate). But it did become illegal in Ireland recently, and supposedly secular Europe is having its fair share of issues recently.
Updates
Blogging's been a little infrequent of late, and it'll be at least a week before anything comes up regularly since on Wednesday I head to Edmonton for the Canadian Undergraduate Physics Conference - both to represent SFU Physics at the Graduate Studies fair and to support my overstressed girlfriend who's been organizing this event for the past year.
So here's some news (in no particular order or even semblance of relatedness other than that it all interests me):
- Obama is doing a better job defending our medicare system then most (but not all) Canadian politicians
- On the CFI and accountability issue, I had received an informal response from CFI Transnational a few weeks ago (essentially saying the system works so why fix it), but they have yet to release anything official. I'll likely come back to this next week.
- In Malaysia, they're going to cane a Muslim woman for drinking a beer. She'll be the first woman in Malaysia to be caned for drinking under the Sharia Law there that only applies to Muslims (for now). It's supposed to be a "ceremonial" caning as opposed to anything painful, but I still don't think that cuts it. We don't "ceremonially" spank children because it's nearly as bad as actually spanking a child.
- I got a new Netbook, and it kicks ass. I also got an external DVD burner and used it to put Windows XP on my old netbook which I plan to give to my girlfriend (so she no longer has to lug around her 10 lb "laptop"). The funds for this were provided by the UofA ECE department for me having the top presentation of the 2009 EE 495 research project.
- If you're interested in what my research career is shaping up to look like for the next couple years, and don't want to wait for my inevitable posts that attempt to boil it down for easier consumption, you can try to get through this guy's thesis [pdf] which somewhat relates to what I might be doing (I'm still not 100% sure since our lab's not fully operational yet). Short form: measuring exotic micron-scale forces with Bose-Einstein Condensates.
- Finally, North Vancouver is considering an obscure piece of technology to make getting up the steep hills easier on bicycles. See the video below:

The growing discourse
It seems I started something with my little expose on the state of secularism in Canada, specifically targeted at CFI. Here's the current list (roughly chronological) of the reactions:
- Joe thinks I overreacted, but has a unique photoshop of "Archbishop Trottier"
- Gordo goes a step further and compares Justin to Bill Donahue (now even I wouldn't go there)
- Zak adds his two cents
- and finally, Katie Kish, president of the Freethought Association of Canada, writes a flaming indictment of Justin Trottier.
Of Katie's more unsettling comments include stories of Justin turning down volunteer applicants who listed work with feminist organizations on their resume. These are actions that, ironically enough, could be pursued by human rights commissions (and to be fair, if a man had said they worked with men's organizations and got turned down for a job, it also would be grounds for a HRC complaint).
Justin also published a new article on his blog, and the Facebook thread attracted over 130 comments (link will likely only work if you've friended Justin). Many voices came out against Justin in that thread, and a few supported his stances.
In the past week I've talked to many activists at varying levels from different regions across Canada. Most of them share these concerns and have been harbouring them for some time now.
Consider CFI Canada's pursuit of charitable status. This is something that's been achieved by both the Freethought Association of Canada and Humanist Canada. There is precedent and besides the (significant) paperwork should not be as slow coming as it is. Running through Canada Revenue's charity checklists makes you wonder, what are they failing at?
It's perhaps not as understood by some portions of management that local communities are suffering without access to the ability to grant tax receipts for donations (as churches and registered charities can). Without that flow of dollars, CFI is going to hit the mud soon. While Justin is a made employee (thanks to a few generous donations in Toronto), many activists in other communities cannot spare the time from their careers to build their centres.
Of course these are but a few of the concerns that are resonating across the country.
Likely, this is what has prompted the start of Canadians for Grassroots Secularism. A blog that seeks to unite those with these shared concerns. It hopes to either pressure CFI-Canada to reform or to seek alternative methods to promote secularism in Canada.
If you agree that changes are necessary in regards to these issues, I urge you to sign on to their cause.
If Atheism is a religion, CFI is its Vatican
The question that needs to be addressed today is: Who is behind the growing freethought movement in Canada, and how much control do they have?
CFI Transnational - aka "The Vatican of Atheism"
Pictured above is the headquarters of the Center For Inquiry in Amherst, New York (just outside Buffalo) and the major leaders of freethought in Canada, John Xu, Katie Kish and Justin Trottier.
While not quite as glamourous, the main headquarters of the Centre For Inquiry Canada / Ontario can be seen here:
These pictures are from my trip to the CFI Student Leadership Conference last summer which I documented in several stages (1, 2, 3, 4, 5, 6, and 7). Overall, the conference was a blast, despite some rumours, that I ignored then, about the heavy-handedness of some of the leadership.
But recently, and especially as CFI has been expanding, I've begun to question how this movement in Canada, and abroad, is structured.
In the USA, there's no shortage of freethought/secular/skeptic/humanist/atheist/rationalist/any-other-name-you-can-put-to-it (henceforth I will refer to all of these groups as "secular" except in the case of specific groups) groups that exist. See the following chart for a rough diagram of how they all fit together (h/t Friendly Atheist) (also note that this chart is over 2 years old, and applies primarily to the USA):
Not exactly simple right? And there's a lot more overlap in the work that they do then is self evident.
For a simple example, a new secular campus group can seek funding, pamphletting materials, startup packages (including sample constitutions and event suggestions) and speakers bureaus from both the Secular Student Alliance and CFI-On Campus. For a new group starting up, the only difference is the resources available to each.
Luckily for new student groups, these umbrella groups don't force their campus chapters to be exclusive or conform to any objectives of the umbrella. So long as you promote freethinking in some fashion, the SSA and CFI will support you (often simultaneously).
So what does the organizational chart of Freethought in Canada look like?
There is also a "Skeptics Canada" group, but it's website hasn't been touched for two years, so I excluded it.
As far as I can tell, none of the organizations in Canada have a member-elected board, and the Freethought Association of Canada is a registered charity.
Unfortunately or not, there's not actually as much diversity of ideas as that graphic leads on.
If our example is of CFI Transnational being the Vatican, then founder Paul Kurtz would have been the Pope (until he was recently relieved of his duties by the new president Ron Lindsay - again h/t Friendly Atheist for coverage of that scandal). Continuing the analogy, CFI Canada would then be an Archdiocese and Justin Trottier would be Archbishop of Canada.
Justin didn't start with CFI though. His first group was the University of Toronto Secular Alliance, which eventually spawned the Freethought Association of Canada, now headed by Katie Kish (pictured above).
After the TSA/FAC, with help from Amherst, Justin founded CFI Ontario (which has become CFI Canada), where he remains executive director to this day.
But that still wasn't enough for him, and he presides over the Canadian Secular Alliance.
Finally, the Canadian Atheist Bus Campaign was started by FAC, but atheistbus.ca is registered to Chris Hammond, who organizes the campaign for FAC.
So out of the four major secular organizations in Canada, Justin Trottier founded or currently runs three of them. He has proven to be quite the success for secularism in Canada, earning quite the media repetoire of interviews, TV panels and nationally-syndicated columns. He literally has become the "face of atheism" in Canada.
But looking back through his career, I pause to ask, when did the Evil Atheist Conspiracy proclaim him our saviour from above spokesperson?
Actually, that question doesn't really bother me. He did a lot of leg work for the movement and worked his way from campus organizing to taking on leaders of the Canadian Christian Right (something I got to try too).
But now that the movement is really becoming visible, it's time to stop and question if it's time for a change in direction for at least one of these organizations?
Now, in his spare time Justin also finds time to run a blog over at Equalism Activism, but I can almost guarantee you it's not exactly what you'd expect. From the statement on his site:
We believe in equalism, not equity. Provide people equal opportunities, be they atheists and theists, secularists and religious, or men and women; groups should not be subject to social engineering meant to enforce equality of results or systematically bias our neutral public spaces.
This blog is dedicated to the defense of those seemingly all powerful in our society:1) Scientists: pioneering inquirers, denigrated as arrogant elitists,
2) Rationalists: searching for truth with openness and fallibility, lambasted by the postmodern left and the religious right
3) Secularists: striving to maintain church-state separation, squeezed between religious accommodationists and multicultural ideologues,
4) Men: who die younger, are at greater risk of the top ten causes of death, suffer legal biases against fathers, are denounced in the media, are greater victims of violent crime, yet can't stop apologizing for their gender
We speak for those groups supposedly invulnerable to slander...not because we believe in censorship and wish to silence our critics. Just the opposite. Because we believe in the most uncompromising freedom of expression. So we're going to say some things that need to be said.
That last one will catch a lot of freethinkers off guard for a second or two. The Men's Rights movement is definitely controversial, and I know from personal discussions with secular activists who would otherwise be more involved with CFI (which is currently the pre-eminent secular organization in Canada) have shyed away due to several of Justin's statements at Equalism Activism and on his Facebook page.
In an ideal society we could keep his men's rights work separate from his secular work (as I've similarly tried to keep my NDP campaigning apart from my secular work), but there's going to be slips, and the media/public may not always draw the lines that ought to be there.
Case in point, Justin recounts in one post how he was contacted for an interview for the Atheist Bus Campaign (a frequent occurrence), and claims the person securing the interview immediately jumped to FACs then Vice President, Katie Kish for the interview (supposedly for the sexist reasons of misrepresenting the number of females in atheist organizations). Justin writes:
They immediately targeted Katie as the ideal guest (they didn’t even ask about Chris [Hammond, organizer of the atheist bus initiative]), as she is female and they are looking to increase the presence of female voices. Is this a CBC policy, I asked. No, just an unofficial practice. So you would rather speak to the Vice President then the President of the Association, I asked. Well, I’m sure you’re both equally capable spokespeople, was the reply (this is from memory so it may not be exact). Now Katie is more then qualified and she had already fielded loads of these interviews, but there was no attempt at all by this producer to differentiate us in other more meaningful ways, such as by experience, involvement in this campaign, or other accomplishments. It was all about gender.
I told them, very calmly, that I found this sexist, both against men who work hard to earn the leadership of organizations, and against women. Think about it. The media is effectively hiding the real position of females within NGO’s if they pretend they have more power within the organization then they really do, and that’s hardly helpful towards improving the real status of women if that is something they are concerned with. It cuts both ways, right? Anyway, they decided to have me on the air, but ended up emailing later in the day to cancel the segment, no reason given. I would have worried more, had I not already done like 30 radio spots (in fact, I was at CBC studios fielding 6 radio interviews in a row when that particular email came through).
Perhaps I’m being paranoid, but that was only one of two interviews to cancel on me, and the other gave a damn good excuse - coverage of the Tamil Tigers.
One commenter states that Justin's behaviour was very "unprofessional." And I'd have to agree. Not everyone has an agenda, and even if they do, leave your mysogony to your personal life, on that telephone Justin, you were representing CFI and by extension of the bus campaign, all atheists in Canada.
I've seen some of the groups in Ontario and across Canada, and there's one thing most atheist groups have in common: an overabundance of testoterone. If that interviewer wanted to put up a female voice to counter the repeated white-male voices, all the better for us to look diverse and inclusive.
So this brings me to my current state of mind.
The secular movement in Canada is just shy of Justin Trottier's personal movement. Not only that, there seems to be little to no check on his power within the organizations he controls.
Several of these groups have mysterious boards of directors (that I've never met nor heard of) and an array of executive officers, but none are accountable to actual atheists across Canada. If anything, CFI Transnational in Amherst has more control over the secular movement in Canada then actual Canadians do (remind you of anything?).
Luckily, CFI has exerted very little control over its local communities and centres. CFI Calgary, which became CFI Alberta, was structured entirely from the grassroots by activists in the province. As more Edmontonians started joining CFI Calgary, Cliff Erasmus, the director of CFI Calgary, worked out a multi-city partnership which formed CFI Alberta. This is the first time that the Center for Inquiry has ever set up a community across multiple cities, and so far it seems to be a success.
Each Centre/Community is basically free to decide their own objectives, just so long as they fall under the Centre for Inquiry's broad overarching mission statement.
And this is not to diminish the work of Justin, he definitely championed for autonomy for the local Canadian Communities and Centres to Amherst, and a lot of what's been accomplished in establishing this movement must be accredited to him.
Yet each local Centre/Community remains a microcosm of the greater issue that plagues CFI: members aren't in control. Even the Unitarian Universalists elect their leadership. And half of them are atheists already (note: made up statistic)!
For the Center For Inquiry to truly place itself and secular humanism as a legitimate alternative to established religions, it must do things differently then the religions.
While it is likely easier to run an organization like a business and merely push secularism as a product for the Canadian culture to consume, and this tactic could likely be highly successful in this world, I don't think that's the kind of organization that many activists want to be part of. I know I'm personally growing increasingly uneasy with this situation as it exists - and I say this having been given a role as "Campus Regional Coordinator" for all the universities from Victoria to Winnipeg (not exactly manageable for a full-time student with no travel budget).
Meanwhile, the Secular Student Alliance, mentioned earlier, operates more ideally, with a board that is elected by the paid members of the organization (another perk of paying to join the SSA). The board then appoints, and holds responsible, the executive director and other staff of the organization.
If it all comes down to money, at least the prospect of a minor bit of control over the organization you're buying into would likely push further to sell a few more CFI memberships.
I recall talk a while back of CFI moving towards an elected board, but since Ron Lindsay assumed the presidency of the organization, no obvious moves have been made.
I can nearly guarantee you that every campus group affiliated with CFI holds their leadership accountable to their members, so its time for the big boys (sic) in Toronto and Amherst to face their membership.
If they're doing a good job, they should have nothing to worry about.
Once final note, you can read the email I sent to Justin Trottier, D.J. Grothe, and Ron Lindsay with my concerns here. If I get a reply, I'll let you know.

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